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Topic-icon Striped Bass MORATORIUM? - A Word From Paul - Our Long Island Striped Bass Fish

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10 Nov 2017 12:22 #3291 by JerryRuff



Striped Bass MORATORIUM? - A Word From Paul - Our Long Island Striped Bass Fishery
. Did some fishing today and it was a pretty good day on the beach will certainly do a video about that. However I ran into Paul on the beach and we got to talking about the striped bass fishery in the area. Between the two of us there is close to a century of eyes on the water (Paul takes the lion share) and we both have seen a dramatic decline in the striped bass fishery in the past several years. What is the cause? There is no silver bullet here. It seems to be a conglomerate of issues and Paul only touches the surface. Paul hits many notes on possible causes of the decline. I also would like to add... I talk to many, many old veterans of the beach and ALL of the older vets do paint the same picture. That is evidence enough that things have changed to the decline and as Paul stated there are many causes to the problem. Thanks as always for watching and hope you enjoyed the video as much as we did making it.

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11 Nov 2017 14:51 #3300 by jps1010
Great video about discussing the status of our Striped Bass fishery and thanks for addressing it. I have been fishing for about 40 years and have fished during the crash of the 80s to the resurgence of the 90s into the early 2000s to present situation we find ourselves in now. I figured I would share a letter I wrote about a month ago to one of the former members of the ASMFC. Some items have changed since I wrote that letter. I got one keeper, yes only one, and I did speak with the gentleman I had addressed this letter to. The conversation went well and I would suggest you express your concerns to Governor Cuomo and those responsible at the ASMFC. If don't care about fishing, don't say anything but if you do, I suggest you voice your concerns.

I can tell you this much, when the Striped Bass collapsed in the 80s, a lot of people said it was pollution, the weather, they're staying offshore, there are plenty everywhere you are not, etc but in reality the problem was very simple, over-fishing. The bottom line is we hammer them up and down the coast and they simply can't reproduce as fast as we eat/kill them.


No arm chair quarter backing here. I have been saying this for years. As a matter of fact I said history was going to repeat itself when you and others advocated for the 2 @ 28". I have also been writing those in charge for years. I did not call you at that point because I said what I had to say; however, at this point I am very curious to hear what you have to say now. I am extremely busy with work and grad school but I will certainly call you this time around when time permits.

As far as the minutes from past meetings, I don't believe I need to rehash what I already know. Correct me if I am wrong but these decisions are based on commercial and recreational landings, and haul seine samplings which I agree is the best science we have. I worked an as analyst so I am well aware how one uses the information they have to come to a conclusion. What I have a problem with is folks such as yourself don't manage this resource for the good of everyone and instead manage it for the commercial and for hire interests. That is wrong and is what I am very upset over. I am able to conclude this by years and years of mostly poor recruitment and nothing being done until way too late. That is unacceptable. Think about about, you have a business and each year you have less money coming in but your bills are constant. If you don't cut back you risk of going out of business. Hence here we are again with the Striped Bass. Years of poor recruitment, yet no change until recently to the restrictions. This is why I am writing you and not on the beach doing what I love.

This is not rocket science. It is more like common sense yet it appears to be so hard to grasp. It is very sad, unfair and needs to change. After all aren't you and others supposed to advocate a healthy fishery for everyone? Not catching one keeper this year and not one Bass in the Fall is not a healthy fishery, nor is this an anomaly. Its been getting progressively worse for years in my home waters.

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11 Nov 2017 16:15 - 11 Nov 2017 16:16 #3302 by JerryRuff
That is an interesting point about the 2-28" fish then a sharp decline to follow after. I did not think on that. When law and politics are involved things do not get done. Politicians talk and do not do nothing, we do and can do something without them. Thanks for sharing your experience jps

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15 Jan 2018 14:53 #3486 by lastfish1
Should have left the size at 36" and over with a limit of ONE.

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10 Dec 2021 23:13 #5459 by swolf154
I disagree. I think the fishing has good years and better years. We didn't have Stripers in the Long Island sound in the 70's and 80's. Now my son kills them in Smithtown bay. Strippers will be back big and strong in the nexr few years.You'll see.

Steve

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